before we started our interview, you said the obama administration has to stop the bloodletting or as you said bedwetting. that's the onerous on joe biden tomorrow because the president's performance was not good. >> it wasn't good. not that mitt romney beat president obama -- i'm not sure if he did, but barack obama did not look good last week. what vice president biden has to do is stop the bleeding. >> what does paul ryan need to do to keep the momentum going that mitt romney accelerated last week? >> both these candidates are really smart guys that know washington, know how buckets work. -- budgets work. that's what paul ryan's specialty is. he has to show his expertise. this is a great opportunity for him to introduce himself to the american people again and to show take he's somebody that we can credibly believe is one heart beat away frbing president -- from being president. >> we don't vote for vice president. we do vote for them but you know what i'm saying. that's not why you go to the polls and elect the top of the ticket. does the debate really mean that much in the long r